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Raziel wrote:225 (not including the Diskx.dxa) with the 2-CD version...
Would you be able to provide a file list? I may as well make it work with both versions, even though I don't see it getting wide use... :)
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JKing wrote:
Raziel wrote:225 (not including the Diskx.dxa) with the 2-CD version...
Would you be able to provide a file list? I may as well make it work with both versions, even though I don't see it getting wide use... :)
Sure, i'd also be interested which files are missing for my version and maybe what they have inside :-)

This is the list with the Diskx.dxa included...

agent32.smk
Airlock.smk
Allcreds.smk
Allships.smk
Anlstink.smk
Badluck.smk
bentalk1.smk
bentalk2.smk
bentalk3.smk
BigFight.smk
biktomb1.smk
biktomb2.smk
Blowlab.smk
BR-J1.SMK
breakdown.smk
bridge.smk
button1.smk
button2.smk
Cardlift.smk
cargo.smk
cartomb1.smk
cartomb2.smk
Charisma.smk
chute1.smk
Clossmok.smk
Closvent.smk
Coach.smk
Cola1.smk
Colatalk.smk
cygnus1.smk
cygnus2.smk
cygnus3.smk
D5rklrs.smk
DIA-J3.SMK
Disk1.smk
Disk2.smk
Disk3.smk
Disk4.smk
downtube.smk
dream.smk
dwarf.smk
escape1.smk
escape2.smk
FASALL.SMK
fbikewurb.smk
feebdel.smk
Feebohno.smk
feebpump.smk
feefone1.smk
feefone2.smk
founder2.smk
founder3.smk
founder4.smk
frog.smk
fxmadsam.smk
fxwakeup.smk
Gasout2.smk
gate.smk
Get Car.smk
getaxe.smk
getbrain.smk
getlift.smk
goblin.smk
Grenboom.smk
Grengas.smk
icetrench.smk
intomb1.smk
intomb2.smk
J1-BR.SMK
J1-J2.SMK
J1BR-J2.SMK
J1J2-BR.SMK
J2-J1.SMK
J2-J3.SMK
J2-RTA.SMK
J2-rtap.smk
J2J1-J3.SMK
J2J1-RTA.SMK
J2J3-J1.SMK
J2J3-RTA.SMK
J2RTA-J1.SMK
J2RTA-J3.SMK
J3-DIA.SMK
J3-J2.SMK
J3-MA.SMK
J3-manv.smk
J3DIA-J2.SMK
J3DIA-MA.SMK
J3J2-DIA.SMK
J3MA-DIA.SMK
Jackpot.smk
Kickass.smk
killpeg.smk
knockout.smk
labocto.smk
lift1.smk
lift2.smk
longfeeb.smk
Lookbrai.smk
MA-J3.SMK
Mainmin.smk
MArrive.smk
maznat.smk
meetsquid.smk
MfBike1.smk
MfBike10.smk
MfBike11.smk
MfBike12.smk
MfBike13.smk
MfBike2.smk
MfBike3.smk
MfBike4.smk
MfBike5.smk
MfBike6.smk
MfBike7.smk
MfBike8.smk
MfCar2.smk
MfCar3.smk
MfCar4.smk
MfCar5.smk
MfCar6.smk
mflirt.smk
mfxHappy.smk
MG1die.smk
MG1shoot.smk
MG2die.smk
MG2shoot.smk
MG3die.smk
MG3shoot.smk
MG4die.smk
MG4shoot.smk
MG5die.smk
MG5shoot.smk
MG6die.smk
MG6shoot.smk
MG7die.smk
MG7shoot.smk
MG8die.smk
MG8shoot.smk
Mix_Feeb1.smk
Mix_Feeb2.smk
Mix_Feeb3.smk
Mix_Guardscn.smk
Mlights1.smk
MLights2.smk
mpland1.smk
mpland2.smk
mplndcar.smk
MProtest.smk
mptocar.smk
mptoff1.smk
mptoff2.smk
Mudfin.smk
mudman.smk
munlock.smk
MUS5P2.SMK
MUSOSP1.SMK
newcredits.smk
Nextdoor.smk
Niceone.smk
oldpills2.smk
Omenter.smk
Omnicofe.smk
Omnitoy.smk
Openvent.smk
OUTMIN~1.SMK
Pegpatrl.smk
prisontile.smk
Qtime.smk
Readbook.smk
Rebelhq.smk
RebelHQ2.smk
Reedin.smk
rescue1.smk
rescue2.smk
Ropchai.smk
Rope1.smk
Rope2.smk
Round1.smk
Round2.smk
Round3.smk
Round4.smk
Round5.smk
Round6.smk
RTA-J2.SMK
Rtap-j2.smk
samcar.smk
Samdead.smk
scanner.smk
SE-J1.SMK
shrtfeeb.smk
Sleepy.smk
sorceror.smk
spitbrai.smk
start.smk
Start1.smk
statue1.smk
statue2.smk
sva1.smk
sva2.smk
Swamp.smk
Teeter.smk
Temple2.smk
Temple3.smk
Temple4.smk
Temple5.smk
Temple6.smk
Temple7.smk
Temple8.smk
Tic-tac2.smk
torture.smk
transmit.smk
Typey.smk
Vent1.smk
Vent2.smk
ventfall.smk
ventoff.smk
Ventop1.smk
VENTOP2.SMK
vidspin1.smk
vidspin2.smk
virtua.smk
wasting.smk
whowhat.smk
WINASOFT.SMK
wizard.smk
wurbatak.smk
wurbs1.smk
wurbs2.smk
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Post by magnus80a »

Hi, I'm an new member here and I've just discovered that the Feeble Files has been included :) *yay!*
Thing is I have the 2 CD Windows version, but I can't seem to find all the files listed in the files list.
The list claim that I should copy the following:
*.VGA
GAME22
save.999
TABLES*
TBLLIST
Rename voices.wav on CD1 to voices1.wav
Rename voices.wav on CD2 to voices2.wav
The only ones I can find are the .vga files and voices.wav files.
Another thing I've been wondering about is the the talk about converting something into something else. I've only skimmed this long thread so maybe the answer is somewhere in there... :oops:
... but is there a doc on how to setup Feeble Files anywhere? I haven't had any trouble with the other games, just this one. Thanks.
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Post by Raziel »

magnus80a wrote:Hi, I'm an new member here and I've just discovered that the Feeble Files has been included :) *yay!*
Thing is I have the 2 CD Windows version, but I can't seem to find all the files listed in the files list.
The list claim that I should copy the following:
*.VGA
GAME22
save.999
TABLES*
TBLLIST
Rename voices.wav on CD1 to voices1.wav
Rename voices.wav on CD2 to voices2.wav
The only ones I can find are the .vga files and voices.wav files.
Another thing I've been wondering about is the the talk about converting something into something else. I've only skimmed this long thread so maybe the answer is somewhere in there... :oops:
... but is there a doc on how to setup Feeble Files anywhere? I haven't had any trouble with the other games, just this one. Thanks.
OK, lemme see if i can break it down for you...

taken from the ScummVM readme

3.13) The Feeble Files notes:
----- -----------------------
If you have the Windows version of The Feeble Files, there are several things
to note.

Many of the files necessary for the game are stored in an InstallShield file
called data1.cab, which ScummVM is unable to unpack. You will need to use the
original installer or i5comp to unpack the contents of this file.

The game uses Smacker cutscenes extensively, which we can't support directly,
due to reasons described above. The cutscenes have to be re-encoded to DXA,
which is the format used by the cutscenes in the Amiga and Macintosh versions.

taken from the Tools Readme
See the tools README for a brief guide on converting the cutscenes.

The original speech files will need to be renamed, to use with ScummVM.
Rename voices.wav on CD1 to voices1.wav
Rename voices.wav on CD2 to voices2.wav
Rename voices.wav on CD3 to voices3.wav
Rename voices.wav on CD4 to voices4.wav

Taken from the Tools Readme...

Encoder Tools:
encode_dxa <prefix> <directory>

Creates DXA file out of extracted Smacker video.

To extract a video use RAD Game Tools and perform 2 passes
on it. For example, if your video is called 'intro.smk'.

1. Extract the video to PNG, 256 colors (choose PNG format
and tick the checkbox). It will create bunch of files named
'introXXX.png', where XXX is frame number. Make sure you have
extracted 256 colors PNGs, otherwise encode_dxa will complain.

2. Extract the audio to WAV format, you will get an
'intro.wav' file.

3. Put files 'intro.smk', 'intro.wav' and 'intro*.png' into a
single directory.

4. Run `encode_dxa intro` in that directory

5. You will get an intro.dxa file and intro.flac/mp3/ogg file
in result.

Additionally you may use batch processing mode of SMK files in
RAD Game Tools. Just select more than one file and push the
'Convert' button. It will ask you either you want them
processed in batch mode and will do this for you. All buttons
and conversion options work the same.

There is an example batch file on page 8 on this thread, so off you go ;-)
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Post by Qvist »

deadagain wrote:1. I'm using this simple script (as posted here in various forms) to convert the movies.

for %%i in (*.smk) do binkconv.exe %%i %%~ni.png /n-1 /z1 /#
for %%i in (*.smk) do binkconv.exe %%i %%~ni.wav /v /#
for %%i in (*.smk) do encode_dxa.exe --flac --best -b 1152 %%~ni

How about including this and the one for linux in the readme? It would probably make it easier for people trying to batch-convert...
This script worked fine except for the "Get Car.smk", notice the space in the name, cannot open Get was the error message when binkconv was run. I renamed it to GetCar.smk for the conversion and then renamed the dxa and the fla with a space in the filename.
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Post by magnus80a »

Raziel wrote:...
Thanks! Never thought of actually installing it before snatching the files :oops:
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Hi....I'm new

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I'm a complete newbie and had the longest message ever(since i didn't understand anything. however, i tought myself a thing or two using this super thread). just deleted it because i found out most of what I need is right under my nose.
this is the edit from my original message, reffering to the encoding part:
I kind of got exahausted... is there a quicker way to do this? right now i'm only in disk1's smk files, and as I understood I'm supposed to convert them 1 file at a time(to png, to wav and then to mp3 and dxa).
any tips of making it faster? and by the way - it takes a whole lot of space!(i copied the entire disk1 to my computer... is it neccesary or i just did it because i thought i needed to? is it neccesary to install the FF?)

thanks in advance,
Doron Snapiri

p.s. you'd think that Israelis would have better things to do at this times, weren't you?
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Post by SimSaw »

Another point I have to critisize is that the user is forced to use .dxa files. :( In earlier version it just skipped the .dxa files and printed a message in the debugger window. That way it was possible to play the game without cutscene converting. The cutscenes mentioned in ScummVM, I simply watched with RADVideoTools. Maybe you weren't aware of this, so could you please reinsert this possibility?
It would be great for all who don't have a large disk and have problems (or don't have the time) with converting the movies.
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Post by Kirben »

SimSaw wrote:Another point I have to critisize is that the user is forced to use .dxa files. :( In earlier version it just skipped the .dxa files and printed a message in the debugger window. That way it was possible to play the game without cutscene converting. The cutscenes mentioned in ScummVM, I simply watched with RADVideoTools. Maybe you weren't aware of this, so could you please reinsert this possibility?
It would be great for all who don't have a large disk and have problems (or don't have the time) with converting the movies.
The reason the cutscenes aren't optional in ScummVM, is because the cutscenes are required to complete some sections of the game. The mini games in the arcade and the shooting sequences for example.
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Post by FeebleFiles1 »

Why you dont make this message only for the needet videos, it is so that many people have not so many free on their hd
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Post by clem »

FeebleFiles1 wrote:Why you dont make this message only for the needet videos, it is so that many people have not so many free on their hd
would need additional documentation to state what's actually needed, create even more support requests?
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Re: Hi....I'm new

Post by deadagain »

dsnapiri wrote: is there a quicker way to do this? right now i'm only in disk1's smk files, and as I understood I'm supposed to convert them 1 file at a time(to png, to wav and then to mp3 and dxa).
any tips of making it faster?
There are scripts in this thread & other feeble files threads that will help to automate the process of converting however many files you want at a time (1 disk at a time or all the files etc).

Look through the thread and try it out, if you've ever used the commandline/batchfiles you should be able to figure it out, if not ask again with you specific problem.

Can't help with the space issue ofcourse...
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alrigty then.

Post by dsnapiri »

Thanks for the quick responses.
"if you've ever used the commandline/batchfiles"
commandline of the start menu? Iv'e used it a bit, but only for REGEDIT, CMD and MSCONFIG.
about batchfiles i dont know scrap.
another problem: I don't know how to use scripts, or what they actually are.

2 questions I still need answers on:
1. Do I need to install the FF? (or can I just use an extra folder with the data1.cab unzipped or however you call it.
2. Do I need to copy the entire CD's of FF or are the SMK files are enough?

thanks a lot!
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Re: alrigty then.

Post by eriktorbjorn »

dsnapiri wrote:1. Do I need to install the FF? (or can I just use an extra folder with the data1.cab unzipped or however you call it.
Installing the game was the only way I could find to extract the contents from data1.cab, but if you can find a program to do it, that should work too.
dsnapiri wrote:2. Do I need to copy the entire CD's of FF or are the SMK files are enough?
The game data files page has lists of the data files ScummVM needs for each game. Note that * is a 'wildcard' that matches any string, so TABLES* means TABLES01, TABLES02, etc. Several of the data files are hidden away inside that data1.cab file.

And, as has already been mentioned, the SMK files need to be re-encoded to work with ScummVM.
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Post by oduverne »

Hello

Here is a script that allows you to convert all the smk files one by one without a huge harddrive. The interest is that it extracts the png from only one file at a time.
You have a source and a target folder so that you can interrupt the process and continue it later.

To do this you need to create two files:
1) dxa.bat (don't forget to edit the variables):
@echo off
rem Feeble Files smk->dxa batch convertor

echo Setting environment variables...
SET TOOLS_PATH=D:\Jeux\ScummVM\tools
SET BINK_PATH=C:\Program Files\RADVideo
SET SMK_PATH=D:\Jeux\ScummVM\feeble\smk
SET DXA_PATH=D:\Jeux\ScummVM\feeble\dxa

for %%i in (%SMK_PATH%\*.smk) do call smk2dxa "%%i"

echo Converting finished!

2) smk2dxa.bat:
@echo off
echo Processing %1...
"%BINK_PATH%\BinkConv.exe" %1 "%SMK_PATH%\%~n1.png" /n-1 /z1 /#
"%BINK_PATH%\BinkConv.exe" %1 "%SMK_PATH%\%~n1.wav" /v /#
"%TOOLS_PATH%\encode_dxa.exe" --vorbis "%SMK_PATH%\%~n1"
echo Deleting temp files
del "%SMK_PATH%\%~n1*.png"
del "%SMK_PATH%\%~n1.wav"
move "%SMK_PATH%\%~n1.*" "%DXA_PATH%"

You just have to run dxa.bat to convert the files
Last edited by oduverne on Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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