Beneath a Steel Sky Audio Restoration Project
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SimSaw: They didn't make fun of you, they just cracked a little joke. The reason being that the statement you made was not fully thought out.
To make a copy of a DAT tape, he would need access to a DAT recorder which was what he was looking for to begin with.
Hope you see the funny part of the situation and not take it as a personal insult.
Unless of course it was meant as an insult.
In that case, disregard this post.
To make a copy of a DAT tape, he would need access to a DAT recorder which was what he was looking for to begin with.
Hope you see the funny part of the situation and not take it as a personal insult.
Unless of course it was meant as an insult.
In that case, disregard this post.
Sounds like some cruel Graphic Adventure riddle, eh!?dpolsrod wrote:SimSaw: They didn't make fun of you, they just cracked a little joke. The reason being that the statement you made was not fully thought out.
To make a copy of a DAT tape, he would need access to a DAT recorder which was what he was looking for to begin with.
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Being a sound tech student, I know a bit about DAT players.
Most of them, maybe all of them have some kind of digital output. Those I've been using have optical S/P-DIF outputs (and inputs).
Connect this to the S/P-DIF on you computer sound card, and you'll be able to extract the audio with no quality loss at all!
I really can't tell if the results from your converted tape-streamer will be any good.
If this thread was up a year ago, I'd be happy to send you a DAT tape for testing purposes, however I don't have one at the moment! Next time I'm over at my university studios (that'll be in about a week or so) I'll see if the dat-players are still in there (they probably are). If so, I may be able to record some stuff and send it to you
BTW: As DerSchrauber mentioned, there's allso a standard called ADAT. These are the size of VHS, and have 8 tracks of digital audio. DAT tapes are much smaller, and have 2 tracks of digital audio
Most of them, maybe all of them have some kind of digital output. Those I've been using have optical S/P-DIF outputs (and inputs).
Connect this to the S/P-DIF on you computer sound card, and you'll be able to extract the audio with no quality loss at all!
I really can't tell if the results from your converted tape-streamer will be any good.
If this thread was up a year ago, I'd be happy to send you a DAT tape for testing purposes, however I don't have one at the moment! Next time I'm over at my university studios (that'll be in about a week or so) I'll see if the dat-players are still in there (they probably are). If so, I may be able to record some stuff and send it to you
BTW: As DerSchrauber mentioned, there's allso a standard called ADAT. These are the size of VHS, and have 8 tracks of digital audio. DAT tapes are much smaller, and have 2 tracks of digital audio
multiaudun said "BTW: As DerSchrauber mentioned, there's allso a standard called ADAT. These are the size of VHS, and have 8 tracks of digital audio. DAT tapes are much smaller, and have 2 tracks of digital audio"
What he said is true as ADAT's can record 8tracks and DATs can record 2tracks BUT DATs are also capable of recording 8 digital tracks onto a tape on the Tascam DA-88's. The 88's are no longer manufactured but im sure you can find them in many places as they were the standard in the recording industry.
My suggestion: If any one around your way has a DAT with optical or spdif outputs (which most do) i say transfering those tracks digitally to Protools hardware/software will give you the best result. You can then save these audio clips to almost any format you need. If you were from around here id do it for you but im too far from the Netherlands.
Good luck!
What he said is true as ADAT's can record 8tracks and DATs can record 2tracks BUT DATs are also capable of recording 8 digital tracks onto a tape on the Tascam DA-88's. The 88's are no longer manufactured but im sure you can find them in many places as they were the standard in the recording industry.
My suggestion: If any one around your way has a DAT with optical or spdif outputs (which most do) i say transfering those tracks digitally to Protools hardware/software will give you the best result. You can then save these audio clips to almost any format you need. If you were from around here id do it for you but im too far from the Netherlands.
Good luck!
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I threw this together today to give you an idea of how some of the re-made tracks might turn out: http://www.logic.turntablism.info/mp3/bass1.mp3
Keep in mind I haven't spent much time on it, and I'm also often able to make use of live instruments (such as violin and vocals) so that will definitely help with the more melodic parts that never sound right with midi\samples.
Let me know if you think it's worthwhile, and if so, what sort of timeframe you're looking at finishing the audio restoration, so I can aim to have the music ready by that time.
Keep in mind I haven't spent much time on it, and I'm also often able to make use of live instruments (such as violin and vocals) so that will definitely help with the more melodic parts that never sound right with midi\samples.
Let me know if you think it's worthwhile, and if so, what sort of timeframe you're looking at finishing the audio restoration, so I can aim to have the music ready by that time.
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Well, I like it at least.edweird wrote:I threw this together today to give you an idea of how some of the re-made tracks might turn out: http://www.logic.turntablism.info/mp3/bass1.mp3
Keep in mind I haven't spent much time on it, and I'm also often able to make use of live instruments (such as violin and vocals) so that will definitely help with the more melodic parts that never sound right with midi\samples.
Let me know if you think it's worthwhile, and if so, what sort of timeframe you're looking at finishing the audio restoration, so I can aim to have the music ready by that time.
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Sounds nice.edweird wrote:http://www.logic.turntablism.info/mp3/bass1.mp3
Live instruments should be used whenever possible, of course.
Also, why not use Ogg Vorbis for this?
Also while at it, I think ScummVM should support soundtrack replacement for all games, where this is possible. That should be all kind of MODs and all MIDI games, except for the iMuse titles. Besides BASS, that would be at least those, I guess:
Maniac Mansion C64, EGA, Amiga
Zak McKracken C64, EGA, Amiga
Indy3 EGA, VGA, Amiga
Loom EGA, Amiga
Monkey Island EGA, VGA, Amiga (well, Amiga already supports this )
Flight of the Amazon Queen
Gobliiins Floppy, Amiga
Simon the Sorcerer 1 & 2
Maybe we should file a feature request for alternate soundtrack support for all those games.
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LogicDeLuxe wrote:Well, offering MP3 AND OGG would be great.edweird wrote:Also, why not use Ogg Vorbis for this?
Offering it as OGG only would be as DISCRIMINATING as MP3 only, because I have no way to integrate OGG in ANY of my Music&Media programs I use.
And I WANT to be able to listen to them in my preferred Music&Media programs, even in my car and my mobile MP3 player, if possible.
Please honor this request.
Best regards
Joachim
This greatly exceeded my expectations. Really dark and foreboding, exactly the kind of atmosphere BASS should have. In short, I love it. Just... wow.edweird wrote:I threw this together today to give you an idea of how some of the re-made tracks might turn out: http://www.logic.turntablism.info/mp3/bass1.mp3
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Wow, your sample does sound good, edweird, especcially considering the short time it took you to make it... I like it. And it made me very curios about what else you can come up with, if you decide to do a full remake of all tracks. :)
So far we have absolutely no idea how much time it'll take us to finish the audio data... If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say it's a matter of 1-2 months. Sorry :)
The kind of transmission, be it mp3, ogg, flac or wave, is the smallest of our concerns and can easily be decided on when everything else is done.
So far we have absolutely no idea how much time it'll take us to finish the audio data... If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say it's a matter of 1-2 months. Sorry :)
The kind of transmission, be it mp3, ogg, flac or wave, is the smallest of our concerns and can easily be decided on when everything else is done.
Same here. Good job, I'm looking forward to hearing more!lavosspawn wrote:Wow, your sample does sound good, edweird, especcially considering the short time it took you to make it... I like it. And it made me very curios about what else you can come up with, if you decide to do a full remake of all tracks.