KLARTEXT - because of all the german-speaking people

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KLARTEXT - because of all the german-speaking people

Post by BOT7 »

@ admin:

please! leave this post to the forum! there are so many german-speaking people, joining scummvm, asking for the correct way to play the adventures on the Nintendo DS!
i really think most of the scummvm-users are germanspeaking :-)

reading the english "manual" how to do correctly is so difficult - even to the younger ones!

for all these guys and the peace on earth: PLEASE! DO NOT ERASE!

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So - da die meisten Adventurespieler ohnehin aus Deutschland stammen, frag ich jetzt mal für all jene in diesem Forum, die sich durch das Englische mühen (und sich immer wieder "for-the-bad-english" entschuldigen)

WIE KANN MAN AUF DEM NINTENDO DS SCUMMVM installieren? Monkey Island spielen usw.

(Und "JA" da gibt es diese ENGLISCHE Seite - aber es gibt genug die damit nicht zurecht kommen!)
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Ich hab die ganzen Klassiker daheim - spiele sie auf meinem PC und möchte meinen frisch erworbenen DS LITE "gescheit nutzen"

WAS MUß ICH MIR NOCH KAUFEN? Ich habe immer irgendetwas von einer HOMEBREW gelesen?

Bitte mal Klartext für all die Millionen deutschsprachigen Adventurespieler:

WELCHE KARTE IN WELCHEN SLOT?
WAS WOHIN KOPIEREN?
WAS TUN? :-)


Danke im Vorraus! :cry:
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Post by clem »

forum rule #12

if you have problems understanding English docs, maybe you can find someone to explain things to you
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Post by fingolfin »

This forum is english. But I understand the desire for non-english speakers to have their own place to discuss these things. We may consider adding a German (and Spanish, French... ?) subforums, resp. a single "international" forum.

However, please consider how arrogant it may seem to others when you claim that "most adventure gamers are from germany anyway" or "i really think most of the scummvm-users are germanspeaking". I have no idea on what data you base that claim (our website stats show differently, btw), but regardless, this, and posting german-only when this is clearly against the forum rules as they are, doesn't really make people look positively at you and your request!
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right

Post by BOT7 »

@fingolfin

yes, you are right.
it would be very helpfull for all of us when there are a some sites in the foreign language.

don´t be too angry about me - i´m just a little girl ;-)

but have a look at the pc. most of the new classicadventures are from germany (ankh, tunguska, jack keane, simon the sorcer 4, eg.) and most developer say: the germans alway buy adventures and economy-simulations :-)

and - by the way: you and clem are from germanspeaking states, too ;-)
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Post by md5 »

Most of the classic adventures are from Germany? I beg to disagree. Lucasarts, Sierra, Dynamix, US Gold are all American companies, Revolution and Adventuresoft are British, Psygnosis was British, Coktel Vision is French, Pendulo Studios and Alcachofa soft are Spanish. Adventure games are created in all countries, how can you say that they mostly come from Germany?
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@md5

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nope - carefully reading.

i said: most of the NEW classic adventures (point n click - not this new "broken swords" or "fahrenheit" like)

sure thing, son - in the good old days nearly every developer published a point´n´click. but nowadays most of them come from germany. but i agree with you: the spanish have a great old-style-adventure-culture, too.


but this, of course, is not the request i started. :-)
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Post by agentq »

Hey - let's not argue. There's enough of that on the Internet already!

I agree that there are a lot of German speaking ScummVM users. If you'd like to translate the ScummVM DS site (or parts of it), I would be happy to put your translated version up alongside the English version.
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@agentq

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thanks a lot: may there would be a "well speaking english and german adventurer" translating the site for us.

PLEASE! WHAT DO I NEED? (Was brauche ich?)




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Post by Noelemahc »

but nowadays most of them come from germany
Exported ones, you mean, surely. Tony Tough is Spanish-made, IIRC, Microids is still French last time I checked (or do Syberia and Paradise not count as point-and-click?) and Russia's point-and-click development is booming as well. Granted, none of our stuff gets exported anywhere and it ain't worth much in terms of game design quality, but you do seem to cite quantity over quality. Ain't my fault that the only games worth exporting of all those being made in my homeland are strategies and FPSes.

This is the usual skewered perception of being familiar only with your national situation. I'm certain any spaniard or englishman, or frenchwoman, etc., etc. would attempt to counter your arguments with examples of their own old-adventure-game-loving friends.
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*giggle*

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well, certainly i only wants to know in german how we can get scummvm get started on the nintendo ds.

but *and this was my mistake: i forgott the human nature* people wants to argue :-)

i love this! working in my office (i´m a female bankclerk) is so boring ;-)

back to my first posting: kann hier bitte, bitte jemand posten was ich an hardware brauche um scummvm auf meinem brandneuen ds lauffähig zu bekommen?

i´m totally confused! somebody told me to buy a homebrewcard. what´s this? where can i get one? i was looking in ebay - but there was no card called homebrew?!

second somebody told me to buy a sd-card? is this the same?

PLEASE! i´m a joung girl - getting some ds to my birthday. my last boyfriend showed me DAY OF THE TENTACLE - and i love it!
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Post by clem »

http://scummvm.drunkencoders.com/index.htm#howto

Homebrew carts are cartridges which are not produced by Nintendo and allow people to use selfmade ("homebrew") programs on a DS.

microSD cards are memory cards like those used in digital cameras. You put the programs you want to run (ScummVM + datafiles) on them, then put it in the homebrew cart and the DS will run the program. Wikipedia has pictures: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroSD

The webpage I mentioned above says "The easiest supported card to use is probably the R4DS or M3 Simply." but I don't have a DS so I can't really comment on that.

PS: your English sounds fine to me
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Post by chrisis »

OK, BOT7, I think, I have mercy with you :-). So, I am translating the most important parts from agentq's website at the moment. It's probably not the best translation (it won't win any Pulitzer Prizes, that's sure) and I won't translate the whole site, but I hope will translate enough, so you will know the basics :). Especially I will only translate, how it works on the M3/R4, because it's probably the simplest to make ScummVM work.

@agentq: feel free to put the translation at your site. As I said, it won't be the best translation, but it should still be understandable by an average german speaking person - At least I hope so.
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German translation: Part 1

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How to Get ScummVM DS Onto Your DS
Wie kommt ScummVM DS auf den DS?
To use ScumMVM on your DS, you will need a way of getting code onto your DS, and a copy of the game you want to run. Don't ask me how to get hold of the games, they are still copyright works, so that means you have to buy them. These games are all out of production though, so you'll have to resort to buying a second hand copy from a place like eBay. You can also use demo versions of the games which you can get from the ScummVM website.
Um ScummVM am DS zu nutzen, benötigt man einen Weg, um Code am DS auszuführen und das jeweilige Spiel, das man spielen will. Frag mich nicht, wie man an die Spiele kommt, das Copyright dieser Spiele ist noch immer aufrecht, das heißt, die Spiele müssen gekauft werden. Da die Spiele jedoch nicht mehr produziert werden, ist der beste Weg, an eine Kopie zu kommen, eine Seite wie eBay oder ähnliches aufzusuchen. Man kann auch die Demo-Versionen der Spiele verwenden – diese können von der ScummVM Webseite heruntergeladen werden.
The exception to this are the two games Beneath a Steel Sky and Flight of the Amazon Queen. These two games have been given away for free by their developer, Revolution Software, so you are free to download and play these without paying for them. These can be download from the ScummVM downloads page.
Die Ausnahme zum vorher Geschriebenen sind die zwei Spiele „Beneath a Steel Sky“ und „Flight of the Amazon Queen“. Diese zwei Spiele wurden von den Entwicklern zum Gratisdownload zur Verfügung gestellt und sind auf der ScummVM Webseite downloadbar.
ScummVM DS is a homebrew application. This means that Nintendo haven't approved it, as they do with commercial games. Therefore, in order to run ScummVM you must rely on third party devices which are produced without the approval or knowledge of Nintendo. The devices that can be used to run homebrew on the DS vary widely. The easiest supported card to use is probably the R4DS or M3 Simply. These cards sits in your DS slot. All that's required to be up and running on this card is to put ScummVM DS and your games on the Micro SD card, stick the card reader into your DS, and turn on. Nothing else is required. ScummVM DS can be selected from a menu, and everything runs great. So if you're worried about how hard it is to get this going, these are the ones to get.
ScummVM DS ist eine „Homebrew-Anwendung“. Das heißt: Es ist, anders als offizielle Spiele, nicht von Nintendo lizensiert, das bedeutet: Um ScummVM zu nutzen, benötigt man Adapter von Fremdherstellern. Es gibt sehr viele derartige Adapter. Die einfachste Methode ist wahrscheinlich das R4DS oder M3 Simply. Diese Karten steckt man in den DS-Slot. Man benötigt dann noch eine Micro SD Karte. Auf diese kommt dann ScummVM DS und das Spiel. Nach dem Einschalten des DS braucht man nur mehr ScummVM aus dem Menü auswählen – und das war es dann. Für Leute die besorgt darüber sind, dass es sehr schwierig ist, das Ganze zum Laufen zu bringen, ist eine dieser Karten die beste Methode.
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@clem

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Yes, R4 and M3 are really the easiest way - just copy the files you want to the Micro SD and you're done - no manual patching necessary.
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THANKS A LOT

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:lol:


i will try this! thanks to both!

mein englisch - naja reicht aus um zu schreiben - aber wenn es um technische details geht, bin ich schockierend hilflos :oops:
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