Dosbox MIDI vs ScummVM MIDI

mohok · Post by **mohok** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:00 am

Hi guys!

Sorry if this is an inappropriate place to discuss this but i just wanted to hear others opinions on this.

I was playing Leisure Suit Larry, VGA remake, and i was playing in DOSBox and then a thought occurred to me "Wait a second, doesn't ScummVM support SCI games now?" So i checked and low and behold, it does!

So i started a new game in ScummVM and MY GOD the MIDI sounded sooooooooooo much better!

I know this may be a silly questions, but can someone please explain this to me?

tsoliman · Post by **tsoliman** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:29 am

With no info on what your configuration is in dosbox or scummvm not to mention what your actual hardware/software configuration is, I am going to guess that dosbox was configured to use PC Speaker

It could be oh so many more things like Adlib vs GM (or even MT-32 although you'd notice if you had an MT-32 hooked up.)

envisaged0ne · Post by **envisaged0ne** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:16 am

Exactly as already mentioned. If you have both setup correctly, then the MT-32 music should sound exactly the same in DosBox as in ScummVM. Do you own a real MT-32? Sounds like you have them both setup differently.

Bobbin · Post by **Bobbin** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:04 pm

envisaged0ne wrote:If you have both setup correctly, then the MT-32 music should sound exactly the same in DosBox as in ScummVM. Do you own a real MT-32? Sounds like you have them both setup differently.

If you use the Ykhwong compile of Dosbox you have a quite superior MT32 emulation so in that case Dosbox should sound better.

tsoliman · Post by **tsoliman** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:07 pm

It's been said before: If you don't have a real MT-32 you shouldn't be using MT-32 emulation.

Someone who cannot tell why their midi sounds better in one and not the other doesn't own an MT-32.

Collector · Post by **Collector** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:46 am

That had been true for quite some time, but Munt has gotten damned close to the real thing. If you know what a real MT-32 sounds like, you owe it to yourself to hear how accurate it has become.

tsoliman · Post by **tsoliman** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:59 am

I rather meant that if sound was coming out of your mt32, you'd know (visually)
OP wasn't sure what device (virtual or otherwise) midi was being sent to.

But yeah I agree. I almost don't use my mt32 anymore except as a reference.

valek · Post by **valek** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:21 am

Has ScummVM matched Ykhwong's DOSbox MT-32 emulation? I did a side by side comparison with Space Quest III. The music sounds basically the same except the DOSbox version seems to have more reverb and also in the very beginning when Roger steps out of the pod you hear the door rising in ScummVM you do not except for the "airlock" or whatever that sound is. I guess the question is, which has better MT-32 emulation today? ScummVM or Ykhwong's DOSbox? And can you adjust MT-32 settings on ScummVM?

Both are excellent programs however!

tsoliman · Post by **tsoliman** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:31 am

I think you shoud compare both to your real MT-32 and tell us.

valek · Post by **valek** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:05 pm

Unfortunately I don't have a real MT-32.

envisaged0ne · Post by **envisaged0ne** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:57 pm

The missing sounds in sq3 have been fixed in the latest daily builds.

Also, you're probably not going to get much help when you say you don't own a real mt-32. That means you obtained the roms illegally & most people frown on that

Wesker · Post by **Wesker** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:07 am

Maybe it's just me, but I usually prefer the General MIDI renditions you can obtain through a Yamaha XG device rather than those of a MT-32.

Then again, some games lacking native GM support don't get along well with anything that isn't a MT-32.

tsoliman · Post by **tsoliman** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:37 pm

valek wrote:Unfortunately I don't have a real MT-32.

Please buy one instead of pirating the roms.
Also, read the rules.