Supports missing

chris · Post by **chris** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:22 pm

Hi,

This is my first post here, i'd like to say thank you for ScummVM because, this is a soft easy with many fonctions and not necesseray a big configuration, i've played and finished many games since the begining of the Scumm project, espacially releases with bad emulators like FM Towns. I see today many Coktel Vision Games can be add to the ScummVM engine and i'm glad to check them, especially theses games because i'm French too.

So, i've view the datafiles listing and i've see, there are many releases missing, for example, Goblins 3 on Mac.

http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/Datafiles

So, this is a list of games supported by ScummVM but without a release in [ ] :

Beneath a Steel Sky [Amiga] [Amiga CD32]
Goblins 3 [Mac]
Future Wars [Amiga] [Atari ST]
Legend of Kyrandia [Mac] [Amiga]
Lure of the Temptress [Amiga] [Atari ST]
Loom [Atari ST]
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade [Atari ST]
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis [FM Towns]
Monkey Island 2 [Mac]
Operation Stealth [Atari ST] [Amiga] [DOS EGA] [DOS VGA]
Secret of Monkey Island [Atari ST]
Zak MC Kracken [C64]

If i can help you, give to you a release or check the compatibility of a game, don't hesitate, i've finished all the Coktel Vision games, LOTT and Kyrandia too but not under ScummVM yet

Arantor · Post by **Arantor** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:06 pm

From what I understand:

I get the feeling that BASS (Amiga) will not be supported since the raw data files are downloadable from the ScummVM website, and since they work just about flawlessly, there isn't any real need to add support for a rarer version which is just a port (FM Towns games have generally better graphics than the Amiga/PC equivalents)

Goblins 3 is supported by 0.10 but I'm not sure of its status yet.

Future Wars should also be supported by 0.10 but again I'm not sure of the status of it.

Lure is in progress at the moment, a partial build is available in SVN.

Don't know about the others though.

DrMcCoy · Post by **DrMcCoy** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:09 am

Goblins 3 Mac should work. The compatibility list for Goblins 3 says it's supported, too.

What's missing is only the required files in the wiki. You could give me a list of files available on the floppies and I'll tell you which of them are needed (and add the info to the wiki).

Kirben · Post by **Kirben** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:10 am

chris wrote: Beneath a Steel Sky [Amiga] [Amiga CD32]

No plans to support the Amiga versions.

chris wrote: Legend of Kyrandia [Mac] [Amiga]

The Amiga version is currently not supported, but been worked on.

I'm not sure about the status of the Macintosh version.

chris wrote: Lure of the Temptress [Amiga] [Atari ST]

I doubt the non-PC versions will be supported, if the engine uses hard coded data (like BASS).

chris wrote:Goblins 3 [Mac]
Future Wars [Amiga] [Atari ST]
Operation Stealth [Atari ST] [Amiga] [DOS EGA] [DOS VGA]

Please list the required data files, for these game versions, so we can add the details.

dreammaster · Post by **dreammaster** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:07 am

I doubt the non-PC versions will be supported, if the engine uses hard coded data (like BASS).

That's probably going to be the case. Since Lure of the Temptress is now freeware, it'll be pretty easy for anyone to just grab the data files they need for their particular language from the PC versions. I'm not aware of any graphic or sound differences that would make a non-PC version be worth directly supporting.

chris · Post by **chris** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:59 am

I can't post my reply with the list of files, too long i think and i've the message :

Your post was identified as Spam. If this is in error, please contact a moderator with the text of your message.

Sorry, i've tried since two days and contact a mod on the site but without answer

Kirben · Post by **Kirben** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:11 am

I'm not sure why the post would be identified as spam, I don't think there is a limit on size.

Could you try sending the details via a private message in the meantime?

fingolfin · Post by **fingolfin** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:49 am

Or, how about using this archaic medium called "email" instead?

chris · Post by **chris** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:32 pm

That's fixed

I've checked and list the files required

Goblins 3 Mac - Run under ScummVM 0.10

[Filename] [Size]
[/]
Gob3.bin 286
[/DATA/]
Cat.inf.txt 282
Ext.stk 3 831
Gob31.fnt 6
Gob32.fnt.bin 8
Gob33.fnt.bin 8
Icon~.bin 1
Ima.inf.txt 731
Imd.itk 2 883
Imd.ltk 45
Intro.$$$.txt 302
Intro.stk 205
Mdo.def 1
Musmac1.mid.bin 95
Musmac2.mid.bin 99
Musmac3.mid.bin 104
Musmac4.mid.bin 66
Musmac5.mid.bin 122
Musmac6.mid.bin 133
Musmac7.mid.bin 80
Musmac8.mid.bin 99
Prot.fnt.bin 7
Tot.stk 437

Future Wars Amiga - Run under ScummVM 0.10

[Filename] [Size]
.info 1
add21k 2
aliens 51
auto00.prc 1
delphine 72
delphine.info 1
dugger.dat 48
endcli 1
escalator 38
fwars.dat 72
mediaval.dat 27
moines.dat 20
PART01 199
PART02 331
PART03 211
PART04 160
PART04B 123
protect 1
setpatch 5
startup-sequence 1
suite21.dat 63
suite22.dat 43
suite23.dat 89
superfutur 43
texte.dat 5
vol.1 1
VOL.2 1

Future Wars Atari ST - Run under ScummVM 0.10

[Filename] [Size]
ALIENS 7
AUTO00.PRC 1
DELPHINE.PRG 79
ESCAL 5
FWARS.DAT 6
MEDIAVAL.DAT 5
MOINES.DAT 5
PART01 136
PART02 270
PART03 151
PART04 150
PART04B 124
SFUTUR 6
STE.BIN 3
SUITE22.DAT 7
TEXTE.DAT 5
VOL.1 1
VOL.2 1
VOL.3 1

Operation Stealth Amiga - Check failed under Scumm 0.10

[Filename] [Size]
ADD21K 3
border 5
Delphine 41
EGOUBASE 17
endcli 1
ERRMESS.DAT 2
evil 31
full 6
LABYBASE 19
mess 2
POLDAT.DAT 1
PROCS0 41
PROCS1 61
PROCS2 75
Run 3
SAMPLES 80
SAMPLES2 94
SAMPLES3 95
SD01A 95
SD01B 257
SD01C 65
SD01D 51
SD02 525
SD03 204
SDSONS 172
SDSONS2 127
SDSONS3 108
SINTRO2 198
startup-sequence 1
system-configuration 1
TEXTE.DAT 6
Type 3
VOL.1 1
VOL.2 1
VOL.3 1
VOL 8
Wait 2

Operation Stealth Atari ST - Check failed under Scumm 0.10

[Filename] [Size]
DELPHINE.PRG 95
DESKTOP.INF 1
EGOUBASE 17
ERRMESS.DAT 2
INSTALLE.PRG 6
LABYBASE 19
MIDI.OFF 1
POLDAT.DAT 1
PROCS0 55
PROCS1 61
PROCS2 75
SAMPLES 38
SD01A 95
SD01B 257
SD01C 65
SD01D 51
SD02 525
SD03 204
SDSONS 24
SDSONS2 13
SDSONS3 13
SINTRO2 198
TEXTE.DAT 6
VOL.1 1
VOL.2 1
VOL.3 1
VOL 9

Operation Stealth DOS VGA - Check failed under Scumm 0.10

[Filename] [Size]
DELPHINE.CFG 1
DELPHINE.EXE 47
EGOUBASE 27
ERRMESS.DAT 2
INSTALL.EXE 12
LABYBASE 25
LISEZ.MOI 1
POLDAT.DAT 1
PROCEGOU 6
PROCLABY 7
PROCS00 5
PROCS01 10
PROCS02 28
PROCS03 12
PROCS04 12
PROCS06 8
PROCS07 12
PROCS08 12
PROCS10 13
PROCS12 11
PROCS13 28
PROCS15 22
PROCS16 4
RSC00 25
RSC01 262
RSC02 167
RSC03 277
RSC04 111
RSC05 78
RSC06 167
RSC07 58
RSC08 114
RSC09 153
RSC10 121
RSC11 46
RSC12 110
RSC13 121
RSC14 182
RSC15 166
RSC16 161
RSC17 2
SD.0 26
SD.1 3
SD.2 20
SD.3 21
SD.DIR 1
SD256.BAT 1
SONS31 30
SONS32 32
SONS33 37
SONS34 27
TEXTE.DAT 6
VOL.1 1
VOL.2 1
VOL.3 1
VOL.4 1
VOL 7
VOL.END 1

I don't know where to find Operation Stealth [EGA 16 colors].

Did you find a way to disabled the copy protection to Future Wars and Coktel Vision games without bugs ?

If you need check for other ST-Amiga-Mac version or list of files, there no problem

Post by **eriktorbjorn** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:42 pm

chris wrote: Operation Stealth Amiga - Check failed under Scumm 0.10
Operation Stealth Atari ST - Check failed under Scumm 0.10
Operation Stealth DOS VGA - Check failed under Scumm 0.10

Operation Stealth isn't a supported game yet. (In fact, there's a nasty bug which causes ScummVM to crash on my computer if I try to run it with 0.10.)

chris wrote: Did you find a way to disabled the copy protection to Future Wars and Coktel Vision games without bugs ?

I don't think anyone has tried to. The policy is to keep the copy protection - no matter how annoying it is - unless there's a legitimate version which lacks the copy protection information, or the owners of the game have given their permission.

DrMcCoy · Post by **DrMcCoy** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:20 pm

chris wrote:Goblins 3 Mac - Run under ScummVM 0.10

You should rename/unpack (?) the files. "cat.inf.txt" -> "cat.inf", "musmac1.mid.bin" -> "musmac1.mid", etc.

Required files:

intro.stk (main resources)
tot.stk (scripts)
ext.stk (extra resources)
imd.itk (movies)

Currently unsupported Mac-specific files:

*.fnt (extra fonts, the ones of the PC version bundled in intro.stk are used instead)
*.mid (music, the adlib music in intro.stk is used instead)

Incompatible save related files:

intro.$$$ (extra video buffer, a dirty hack ScummVM works around)
cat.inf (save games, ScummVM uses different save files)
ima.inf (save screenshots, ScummVM puts them together with its own separate saves)

Unneeded files:

mdo.def (config file created by the original Goblins setup)
gob3.bin (the original executable)
icon~.bin (the icon, I guess)
imd.ltk (never used by the game)

chris · Post by **chris** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:47 am

I've finally see about Operation Stealth, thanks eriktorbjorn

I don't think anyone has tried to. The policy is to keep the copy protection - no matter how annoying it is - unless there's a legitimate version which lacks the copy protection information, or the owners of the game have given their permission.

I've speak about copy protection because Lucas games have the copy protection disabled and for Delphine games for example, that's pretty hard, with the original notice too :p

Thank you DrMcCoy for your post, i will repack only the necessary files for Gob3

Post by **eriktorbjorn** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:21 am

chris wrote: I've speak about copy protection because Lucas games have the copy protection disabled and for Delphine games for example, that's pretty hard, with the original notice too :p

Well, for most LucasArts games it's a necessity, really, because when the games were re-released, LucasArts often disabled the copy protection themselves, probably to save money on a simpler packaging. Since the data files are still the same, we cannot tell the difference between the releases. We have to bypass the copy protection too, to make sure the game is playable.

With Future Wars, we haven't had any reports of such releases yet. I have a re-release (a collection of several of Delphine Software's games, actually), but that one did include all the copy protection stuff.

fac · Post by **fac** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:12 am

DrMcCoy wrote:
Currently unsupported Mac-specific files:

*.fnt (extra fonts, the ones of the PC version bundled in intro.stk are used instead)
*.mid (music, the adlib music in intro.stk is used instead)

Will it be possible to add support for Mac music in the future? The music in Gob1 Mac is already played. Has the mid format changed in Gob3 (and Gob2)?

DrMcCoy · Post by **DrMcCoy** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:27 am

fac wrote:Will it be possible to add support for Mac music in the future? The music in Gob1 Mac is already played. Has the mid format changed in Gob3 (and Gob2)?

Well, I don't have the Mac versions of Gob2 and Gob3, so I don't really know.
(See also the WishList on my user page in the wiki.)

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